Yes, at two or more members
Yes, the day you hire
Tell us who owns the LLC
When a single member LLC does not need an EIN
Five things that make a single member LLC need its own EIN
A second member
By default, two or more members make the LLC a partnership for federal tax, and a partnership files Form 1065 under its own EIN. That changes the answer immediately.
An employee
Since January 1, 2009, the regulations have treated a disregarded LLC as a separate entity for employment tax on the wages it pays, so it reports under its own name and EIN rather than the owner’s.
An excise tax return
Excise taxes cover particular goods and activities: fuel, heavy trucks, wagering and similar. The regulations moved these to the LLC from January 1, 2008. Forms 637, 720, 730, 2290 and 11-C all go under the LLC’s number.
A corporate or S corporation election
Form 8832 or Form 2553 makes the LLC a separate taxpayer that files its own return, so it needs its own number rather than the owner’s. An LLC that already has an EIN keeps it through a change of election.
A foreign owner
A US LLC whose only owner is not a US person is still disregarded for income tax, but it has to file an annual information return, Form 5472, and you file that under an EIN.
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The married couple LLC files a partnership return in New York
An LLC owned by a husband and wife is a multi member LLC, so the default is a partnership return and an EIN.
- File Form 1065 under the LLC’s own EIN.
- Each spouse gets a Schedule K-1.
- New York separately requires an IT-204 partnership return.
Nine community-property states can treat the couple’s LLC as one owner under Revenue Procedure 2002-69. New York is not one of them. A couple’s LLC formed here files as a partnership and needs its own number.
A married couple running an unincorporated business together can elect to be taxed as two sole proprietors instead of a partnership. That election is a qualified joint venture, and it is not open to an LLC, because the LLC is a separate entity created under state law.
Does a sole proprietor need an EIN?
Employees
Same rule as an LLC — hire your first one and you need an EIN
Excise tax returns
Same rule as an LLC — filing one requires an EIN
A Keogh plan
The one addition — this retirement plan test has no LLC equivalent
Why most single member LLCs get an EIN anyway
Banking
The account is in the LLC’s name, and that changes what a bank asks for. Which number a bank needs has its own page.
Keeping your SSN off client paperwork
This works only if the IRS issued the EIN in the owner’s own name. An EIN issued to a disregarded LLC does not go on the W-9. That form is a separate question.
State registration
Some state tax registrations require a federal EIN even where the IRS does not, and the IRS says as much.
If you already got one you did not need, that is fine. The IRS cannot cancel an EIN. Once the IRS issues it, the number stays with that entity and is never reused, though the IRS will deactivate it on a written request if you no longer need it.
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